What are collectibles?
These are cars of particular interest, therefore, worthy of conservation. Not necessarily old, however, they exist in definite quantities, either because the manufacturer has decided so, or because their production has stopped. Then they take advantage of features that make them especially desirable: an engine, a chassis, a design, or a concept. Eventually, they will likely see their rating rise. One more argument to collect them before anyone else!
Why is the Audi S5 V8 collectible?
In addition to its gorgeous line that hasn’t aged a bit, the S5 offers a formula very rare in production cars: big V8 atmo/all-wheel drive/manual gearbox. The kind of thing we won’t be seeing again anytime soon! Very efficient thanks to its 354 hp, the Audi also benefits from the typical finishes of the brand (which are being lost) and very current driving safety.
We have already talked about this Audi coupé in this section, either in A5 3.2lo RS5. But not so the S5, which however is the most interesting and homogeneous of all. Why ? Because with its large naturally aspirated 4.2 V8 with FSI direct injection that develops 354 hp, it uses all the capabilities of its chassis, made up of a five-arm train per wheel at the front that reproduces the advantages of a double triangulation and at the rear rear of a multi-link axle, all using the very modern MLB platform.
In addition, the engine is pushed back near the middle of the body for better mass centering and is necessarily combined with a Quattro all-wheel drive equipped with a Torsen inter-bridge differential that sends 60% of the torque to the rear by default. rear. This last point is supposed to make road behavior less understeer and therefore more dynamic. Furthermore, and this is completely unlikely today, gearbox 6 is necessarily… manual!
This nice technical sheet is completed with a weight that is ultimately reasonable, 1,630 kg, which enables very high performance: maximum speed limited to 250 km/h, and above all, a 0 to 100 km/h achieved in 5.1 s. All the same ! However, this large coupé, the first produced by Audi in more than ten years, should not be taken for a sports car. It’s more of a GT, as confirmed by its floating caliper brakes and fairly luxurious equipment.
As standard, there are sports seats in leather/Alcantara, three-zone automatic air conditioning, xenon headlamps and the 10 HP sound system. However, we hate having to stick our hands in our pockets to get the GPS, the electric adjustment of the seats or even the parking cameras when we see the base price. Because the S5, marketed in June 2007, is not sold, at €61,800, which corresponds to €72,600 today according to INSEE.
From then on, a Tiptronic automatic gearbox will be offered in 2008 and, from 2009, the S5 Cabriolet and Sportback (ie 5-door sedan) will enrich the range but, curiously, will change the V8 for a supercharged V6 ( 333 hp) much less musical. . This block will replace the 4.2 l FSI at the end of 2011 at the time of the slight restyling, removing much of its interest in the S5 coupe…
How much is it ?
The reduction was fierce for the S5, which can be found in very good condition from €13,500, with almost 200,000 km. At €16,000 we find some that stick at 150,000 km and at €20,000 the mileage drops to 100,000 km. Count €25,000 for an example with 60,000 km, very rare. Amounts likely to vary depending on the follow-up and the options, very numerous in the catalogue…
Which version to choose?
Due to the originality of the formula, we will move towards a version with a manual gearbox. That we also gain lateral dynamism of conduct does not spoil anything.
As always, these are the ones in perfect original condition and with low kilometers, preferably loaded with options. A clear follow-up will be a great advantage!
What to monitor?
Solidly built, the Audi S5 ages remarkably well, which does not mean, however, that its reliability is beyond reproach. It’s true that the V8 is basically robust, but the same cannot be said for its leaky thermostat and direct injection, whose high-pressure pumps are one of the weak points. Another is the tendency of this system to induce carbon build-up in the intake, and sometimes on the valves, leading to misfires (sometimes attributable to faulty coils, after 100,000 km). Cleaning may not be enough and require demolition (a very rare case).
Still on the intake side, this one, dynamic, has valves that eventually wear out (after 150,000 km), requiring costly replacement because it’s labor intensive. When you retire, take the opportunity to inspect the surroundings of the engine, much more accessible! The distribution is by chain, but box side. Also, when a tensioner or a guide start to weaken, you have to remove the engine to change them, which also happens after 150,000 km.
Frequent oil changes (less than 10,000 km) for the engine delay the phenomenon. The automatic gearbox also appreciates an oil change before 100,000 km (just like the Quattro system), while the clutch of the manual unit is usually changed before this mileage, accompanied by the flywheel. The battery is failing, but in general the electricity is not a problem. In short, with rigorous maintenance, which can be costly, the RS5 is capable of very high mileage without major breakage.
At the wheel
Despite its 15 years, the line of the S5 has not aged one iota. In addition, the current model is very close! The dashboard design admits its age, but not its execution: it appears to be carved from granite. We’re very comfortable sitting in the sport seat, and if the rear seat is held tight, the driving position is impeccable. And at first, happiness: the V8 sounds good. Next ? it’s a blast. It revs to 1,000 rpm in any gear, then pins you in the seat and flips the switch to 7,000 rpm, screaming. The manual gearbox, pleasant to handle and perfectly staggered, is the ideal second.
This set provides pleasure at all times! The chassis? It is better than expected. Already thanks to a management that communicates correctly. Then by judiciously flexible cushioning that reconciles good body support and adequate roughness filtration. Much better than an RS5! Finally, when she runs the thrown Audi ESP on greasy ground, she kindly tastes the butt. Admittedly, the weight is still sensitive, certainly she’s nothing short of a scalpel, certainly borderline, she likes to understeer, but the handling is impressive, in all conditions. And the comfort is excellent. In short, a very nice travel machine, which swallows its 12 l/100 km on average. All the same.
The young alternative
Audi Coupe GT Quattro (1984 – 1987)
Launched in 1981, the Audi Coupé GT, based on the 1980 saloon, stands out for its beautiful 5-cylinder in-line engine. Musical rather than angry, it goes up to 2.2 liters and 136 hp during the 1984 restyling, which also brings the famous Quattro all-wheel drive. We then obtain a coupé capable of carrying 4 passengers on any terrain with total safety, comfort and quite quickly, the car reaching 200 km/h. Reliable but susceptible to corrosion, the Audi Coupe GT Quattro has become very rare and costs €20,000 in very good condition.
Audi S5 (2007), the technical sheet
- Engine: 8 cylinder V, 4163 cc
- Feeding: direct injection
- Suspension: Double wishbone, coil springs, stabilizer bar (AV); multi-link axle, coil springs, stabilizer bar (rear)
- Transmission: 6-speed manual or Tiptronic, four-wheel drive
- Power: 354 hp at 7,000 rpm
- Torque: 440Nm at 3,500rpm
- Weight: 1,630 kilos
- Maximum speed: 250 km/h (manufacturer’s data)
- 0 to 100 km/h: 5.1 s (manufacturer data)
> To find Audi S5 ads, go to the La Centrale website.